tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post1083672873465527581..comments2024-03-27T12:17:41.961-07:00Comments on Deja View: How rough, how clean?Andreas Dejahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10503659818150293229noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-64707185343551477992016-10-19T23:19:22.455-07:002016-10-19T23:19:22.455-07:00Wow, thanks so much for this insightful informatio...Wow, thanks so much for this insightful information. I know that Marc really enjoyed working with Grim.Andreas Dejahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10503659818150293229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-38650534932133986732016-10-18T14:52:07.104-07:002016-10-18T14:52:07.104-07:00Grim Natwick told me that he drew in two completel...Grim Natwick told me that he drew in two completely different ways when he animated. His first pass was super scribbly. Lines flying every direction because he was trying to find the energy in the movement rather than defining the volumes of the characters. Then he would go back and reinterpret his scribbles into solid shapes on a second pass, fighting to maintain the energy in the scribble animation. On Snow White he started differently. He began just doing a straight roto tracing. Then he threw the rotos away and did a scribble pass using the basic timing and motion he had learned from doing the rotos. Then he would go back and tie them down so Marc Davis could assist them. Having Marc Davis as an assistant must have been amazing. At one point Davis was lead assistant over 8 other assistants. It took 9 assistants to keep up with the footage Grim was able to produce. He did over 120 scenes of Snow White in his short time at Disney.Stephen Worthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01047366337202801862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-53245822493913481802016-01-25T12:25:37.236-08:002016-01-25T12:25:37.236-08:00I always prefer the roughs to the clean ups, they ...I always prefer the roughs to the clean ups, they give you a little insight into the animator's thought process.Kirk Tingbladhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13626597018109533563noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-85275131887693851812015-10-21T13:31:03.183-07:002015-10-21T13:31:03.183-07:00This is a fantastic post. I learn so much from see...This is a fantastic post. I learn so much from seeing how other animator's approach rough drawings. Rough drawings are currently what i work best in. I have tendency to clean up too much and end up losing the life I had in the original drawing.<br /> Also I received your book in the mail today and I am extremely excited to read it!! KGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05381073543672766706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-90465334163378821002015-10-21T11:05:34.904-07:002015-10-21T11:05:34.904-07:00Great post - there's so much life and energy i...Great post - there's so much life and energy in those rough animator's drawings. And I have your book - a wonderful tribute to those terrific artists and their work. Thanks for your devotion to artistry and craft!dabeaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15137830157866019123noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-83116466655128343742015-10-20T08:52:14.799-07:002015-10-20T08:52:14.799-07:00The 3rd drawing is from the Mickey short "Sym...The 3rd drawing is from the Mickey short "Symphony Hour" - Clarabelle Cow (minus the bow on her head) animated by John Elliotte.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08141250556479971763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-70523596126264716172015-10-19T18:52:30.285-07:002015-10-19T18:52:30.285-07:00Great drawings and explaining the "why"...Great drawings and explaining the "why" of each example to help when doing your own drawings.<br />Thanks<br />Dan<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09020384732640726608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-18206040596793135572015-10-19T00:13:32.966-07:002015-10-19T00:13:32.966-07:00The 2nd drawing is a caricature of Martha Raye fro...The 2nd drawing is a caricature of Martha Raye from "Mother Goose Goes Hollywood", animated by Ward Kimball.Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08141250556479971763noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-47149636687025620442015-10-18T17:14:11.203-07:002015-10-18T17:14:11.203-07:00what on earth is that second drawing from?
It'...what on earth is that second drawing from?<br />It's got to be an interesting balance- knowing when to speed up and get footage out, or when to take the time to be definite. I think there are times when a soft line, or bundle of gestural lines can describe form & gesture better than solid clean lines.Marc Hendryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17549932443429596568noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-8463623747492204992015-10-18T15:06:06.275-07:002015-10-18T15:06:06.275-07:00Thanks, Rudy.Thanks, Rudy.Andreas Dejahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10503659818150293229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-81574251372407605172015-10-18T15:03:12.046-07:002015-10-18T15:03:12.046-07:00Great post...and I'm enjoying your fantastic b...Great post...and I'm enjoying your fantastic book too!Rudy Agrestahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09388961929137526366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-9309637298821271332015-10-18T09:44:44.120-07:002015-10-18T09:44:44.120-07:00Great variety of drawings to compare. I know these...Great variety of drawings to compare. I know these are nine old men, but it would have been nice to see one by Glen Keane, to emphasize his rough approach with the charcoal lines. A teacher of mine had some assist under glen and it was a real lesson in finding the complete motion underneath the scribbles. Cheers and thanks again for such a great post. Brad C Constantinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17666551699166809094noreply@blogger.com