tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post3063298746893751670..comments2024-03-19T00:14:01.941-07:00Comments on Deja View: Robin Hood Double BouncesAndreas Dejahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10503659818150293229noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-61887728816134569262014-01-26T08:45:07.298-08:002014-01-26T08:45:07.298-08:00Thanks for the Post Andreas,is the first time that...Thanks for the Post Andreas,is the first time that follow you. Nice Job about Robin Hood,because Can see many post in Facebook and is not the same.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05141583093983119721noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-47886219947516268042011-09-30T10:40:59.277-07:002011-09-30T10:40:59.277-07:00Oh really great and awesome. Wow fantastic informa...Oh really great and awesome. Wow fantastic information on different different types of info here you display. Anyway I watch <a href="http://www.experiencenottinghamshire.com/site/robin-hood/" rel="nofollow">Robin hood</a> Pencil test-it's awesome! :)kellywedlockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03153746727380404184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-11487500612477731092011-09-26T18:01:56.823-07:002011-09-26T18:01:56.823-07:00Actually, this is one of favorites. This and Jungl...Actually, this is one of favorites. This and Jungle Book really show off the animator's skill without loosing so much in cleanup. I totally agree with Andy up top, "It would be awesome if they replicated that effect in today's animations."Robinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09941578069466896296noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-66529066741604579942011-09-20T15:10:58.732-07:002011-09-20T15:10:58.732-07:00Beautiful work!I really liked the movie and I'...Beautiful work!I really liked the movie and I'm glad this did not happen to it-http://flic.kr/p/aoQeuBJuan Alfonsohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00052097034554906513noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-32868809940768904902011-09-15T22:19:45.242-07:002011-09-15T22:19:45.242-07:00Robin Hood is one of my absolute favorite Disney m...Robin Hood is one of my absolute favorite Disney movies. Paying attention to the way the characters move is something I love to do when I watch this movie, because that in itself is so telling about the character. It's just like acting, only more difficult, because the animator has to make the audience see the movement through a drawing, not live tangible action. It's really an awesome piece of work.Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01414317982387481481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-18776767260497125312011-09-15T05:14:16.023-07:002011-09-15T05:14:16.023-07:00I was re-re-re-re-listening to Clay's intervie...I was re-re-re-re-listening to Clay's interview with James Baxter the other day and caught the bit about how Milt would rarely go back and erase/re-draw his motions, and he'd said he hoped the reason the drawings in the archives had no wrinkles on them were because they were kept in archives and not because Milt never flipped his work. But look! Wrinkles, glorious wrinkles, the man was human after all!Ryan Colehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16909659774517887811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-77777214507811177282011-09-13T21:32:50.793-07:002011-09-13T21:32:50.793-07:00Matthias,
I like Madame Bonfamille's walk leav...Matthias,<br />I like Madame Bonfamille's walk leaving the carriage very much. This is the kind of thing only Milt Kahl could pull off without the help of live action reference.Andreas Dejahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10503659818150293229noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-4625055359907469202011-09-13T17:01:08.248-07:002011-09-13T17:01:08.248-07:00Robin Hood was definitely one of my favorite Disne...Robin Hood was definitely one of my favorite Disney movies when I was a kid. I like that Xerox Disney style so much with other films like the Aristocats and 101 Dalmatians. It would be awesome if they replicated that effect in today's animations.Andrewhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15090930711140766628noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-65231511533136709562011-09-13T05:05:29.195-07:002011-09-13T05:05:29.195-07:00It's cool walk and really great work. What do ...It's cool walk and really great work. What do you think of Adelaide Bonfamille's walk (Aristocats) when she leaves the carriage at the beginning? In my opinion it's the best animated walk till today because it's so natural and realistic.Matthias Kohlhaashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07421046543375916081noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-44265759714938691862011-09-12T20:51:32.210-07:002011-09-12T20:51:32.210-07:00That is so cool, Thanks Andreas :)That is so cool, Thanks Andreas :)Stuart Colletthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09383458058892753319noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-69450723145775874962011-09-12T20:00:55.627-07:002011-09-12T20:00:55.627-07:00That's funny, I didn't know Robin Hood was...That's funny, I didn't know Robin Hood wasn't liked by a lot of people. I always loved it. I especially love how you can see the rougher lines on the characters. <br /><br />Did they use the xerography technique on this film?David McBridehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14595606222102454157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-78600442089633564302011-09-12T17:14:03.952-07:002011-09-12T17:14:03.952-07:00My oh my. Look at how smooth that happy walk anima...My oh my. Look at how smooth that happy walk animation is of Robin Hood. <br /><br />Milt Kahl was not of this earth. Clearly an immortal drew that! ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11122058275723480326noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-83096386669909890192011-09-12T16:23:09.940-07:002011-09-12T16:23:09.940-07:00The first walk cycle is on 2s. Is it possible to ...The first walk cycle is on 2s. Is it possible to capture the double bounce walk on 2s? This may be the reason why it was simplified. I noticed on Milts scene he animated it on 1s, perhaps to capture the double bounce action better. We don't see Robin's feet it the ground in this scene even though its a pan so It could have been animated on 2s but perhaps that wasn't enough to capture the action of the double bounce. The scene right after Milts is on 1s as well but doesn't have the double bounce, which is odd.owenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16251714590636201752noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-60272890278919155812011-09-12T15:36:03.207-07:002011-09-12T15:36:03.207-07:00It may be more subtle in live action film than in ...It may be more subtle in live action film than in animation, but Fred Astaire naturally always seemed to move in a "double bounce" walk in all of his films. There was such an inherent musicality about the guy, even when he wasn't dancing.<br /><br />Count me as a Robin Hood fan. When it first premiered back in 1973, it became a favourite Disney feature of mine, second only to The Jungle Book. While my opinion of it on the whole has become a bit more critical in the ensuing years, I still value the film as a showcase for the remaining members of The Nine Old Men, who were still in their prime when it came to fun, personality-driven character animation. I suspect that the Xerox process enabled it to look that much more expressive, and I have never really come to terms with the overly polished clean-up line being employed since the computer took over from cel painting. I think some of the vitality of the animation is lost in the translation these days.Pete Emsliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01451607722482352366noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-5326343241784112842011-09-12T14:31:00.001-07:002011-09-12T14:31:00.001-07:00Great walk! I see what you mean about the hookup ...Great walk! I see what you mean about the hookup between shots, it kinda jumps to the double bounce walk. Great stuff Andreas, thanks for sharing.Mike Caracappahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03130773711438017718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-32446854399479136782011-09-12T09:38:00.928-07:002011-09-12T09:38:00.928-07:00This really brings me back. I think this is one of...This really brings me back. I think this is one of the cartoons that made me want to become an animator. Thanks for posting these. Funny thing is one one of my homework assignments is to do a double bounce. It doesn't look easy.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-101216298582561692011-09-12T09:01:44.423-07:002011-09-12T09:01:44.423-07:00This may be the nostalgia talking but Robin Hood w...This may be the nostalgia talking but Robin Hood was always one of my favourite Disney movies when I was younger. It's one of the few Disney flicks where I actually liked the songs, and the character designs and voice actors were fun. Of course I was too young to know about what a budget was or about recycled animation and things like that, but I liked the movie (it's kind of a drag in the middle though).zhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04195148625195640761noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-59962832609966529972011-09-12T08:07:47.872-07:002011-09-12T08:07:47.872-07:00I positively love Robin Hood, and have since I was...I positively love Robin Hood, and have since I was a child. Thanks for sharing this amazing pencil test, Andreas!Chris Cormierhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10437279651726950694noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-21448805794763359882011-09-12T07:36:28.424-07:002011-09-12T07:36:28.424-07:00I like robin hood! thanks for posting this pencil ...I like robin hood! thanks for posting this pencil test! awesomeTim Moenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12021837293727227467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-83169404160556794712011-09-12T05:13:43.167-07:002011-09-12T05:13:43.167-07:00I should have also said:
Some who actually worked ...I should have also said:<br />Some who actually worked on the film have been particularly critical but I think this stems from the era itself where production budgets were being squeezed and higher production values were noticeably suffering. In any feature where the artists themselves verbally express their dissatisfaction (think Black Cauldron) there is sure to be a rippling effect that reverberates and influences other's perception of the film. My advice: Watch the film and (try to) enjoy it not for what it could have been but for what it is.Rodney Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17953461648033310302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-83379551102219155202011-09-12T05:05:19.565-07:002011-09-12T05:05:19.565-07:00Robin Hood is the first Disney movie I recall seei...Robin Hood is the first Disney movie I recall seeing in a theater and the movie (it's songs perhaps primarily) stuck with me through my teenage (comic book) years when Disney animation wasn't the cool thing to admit you were into and tethered me to the film. I gained new appreciation for it later from multiple vantage points, one of with inherent 'studyability'; it is as an ideal movie to study on many levels. Every day I find a new reason to appreciate the work that went into it. Thanks for shining more light on it here.<br /><br />As far as who doesn't like it... it seems to me that it consists mostly of people who work inside the animation industry. Perhaps they may are too close to the process to enjoy what they are seeing?Rodney Bakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17953461648033310302noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-60920237539240773572011-09-12T04:23:39.815-07:002011-09-12T04:23:39.815-07:00I had this on super 8 as a kid.
Who is the one who...I had this on super 8 as a kid.<br />Who is the one who does not like this?<br />TeodorTeodor Ajduk and Perica Cirovichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00861909589699769840noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-57349092481184055022011-09-11T23:06:06.599-07:002011-09-11T23:06:06.599-07:00Brilliant.
Always loved Robin Hood.Brilliant.<br />Always loved Robin Hood.RYAN ASTAMENDI PHOTOGRAPHYhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12774658085670175946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-3395055732409627212011-09-11T21:18:21.331-07:002011-09-11T21:18:21.331-07:00Certainly that Xerox process may interest some, bu...Certainly that Xerox process may interest some, but I'm more for the moment alone, it's great studying these!Chris Sobieniakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09838106041175506925noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2565467389318493488.post-69477770439127916582011-09-11T19:44:12.933-07:002011-09-11T19:44:12.933-07:00speechlessspeechlessHerman Gonzaleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12820275662006354119noreply@blogger.com